The Veterans Show
Join Geoff, a US Army Veteran with over 20 years of service, and his wife Laura, a US Air Force Veteran, as they welcome a diverse group of Veteran guests to discuss topics relevant to all Veterans. Geoff and Laura believe that by fostering conversations with fellow Veterans, they can help prevent others from making impulsive and irreversible decisions. Tune in as we explore all things Veteran.
The Veterans Show
Episode 72: Happy New Year!
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For the first episode of season 3, Geoff and Laura delve into the experiences of Veterans, particularly focusing on PTS and the societal misunderstandings that surround it. Through personal stories and discussions on recent violence involving two Veterans, Geoff and Laura emphasize the importance of support systems and the need to challenge stereotypes.
Veterans Show
Speaker 1There's men and women all around who fought and died for your freedom, and it's real fucked up how the government treats them. They just sit back and they won't even feed them. They lay on the ground feeling defeated. Lord, they paid their dues and they beat the enemy while they're all alone fighting PTSD Because freedom ain't free, but in reality, you entitled a**holes are handed everything. We should all rise up and all just agree that division ain't the way that it's supposed to be. Lord, it's a damn shame what the world's gotten to. We, the people like you, and we, the people like me, should just wake up and realize it's true, because it is oh, it is living in a new world with an old soul.
Speaker 2Welcome everybody and thank you for listening to the Veteran Show. Today is 4 January 2025, the first show of 2025. Happy New Year, everybody. I hope everybody had a very Merry Christmas. I'm here with my beautiful, wonderful wife, Laura.
Speaker 3Aw, thank you baby.
Speaker 2And I want to thank Producer Michelle and WCVM for all of the things that they allow us to do Sit here in this radio microphone.
Speaker 3Yeah, say whatever we want. I'm just kidding, just kidding. We do thank WCVM and most definitely Producer Michelle, who I bomb every week with clips. So thank you, producer Michelle, for being awesome and thank you everybody for joining us again tonight. We're happy to be back. We were out of town for Christmas, but we love being back with you guys and we do pray that you had a very Merry Christmas, happy Hanukkah and Happy New Year.
Speaker 3If you're new to the Veterans Show, you know that we open up each show with a prayer. Or, if you have listened to the Veterans Show before, we start with a prayer. If you're new, not to surprise you, but we start a prayer because we're veterans and everything we do opens with a prayer, so this is no exception. If you can, we ask that you please bow your heads with us. Heavenly Father, all glory to you. Thank you for all that you are and all that you do. Father, thank you for your son. That has given us a time to remember his gift of life.
Speaker 3Father, what I really want to pray to you about today, though, is I want to lift up the families of the fallen Americans from the terrorist attack in Louisiana and the families of the veterans who have been killed. Father, there are hurt veterans all over this nation and I pray for them. I pray for their families, who are enduring the traumas of what we bring home with us. I ask that you give us strength and you give the family strength. Let them know that they're not alone, let them know that they can reach out and that they are loved.
Speaker 3Father, thank you so much for all of the beating hearts, for all the ears that are listening right now, and I lift them up to you and I pray for your will to be done in their lives. You know what they need and I know that you'll do it. Father, thank you for loving us, thank you for your son, and I pray all of this in his name, my Lord and Savior, the risen King, jesus Christ. Amen. As I said, thank you for joining us tonight and, baby, it's good to be back, isn't it? Yes, it is. Yeah, you know this is a kind of I mean, every show we say is difficult, but this one's treading a little bit weird, isn't it, babe? I mean, veterans are quite in the news right now.
Speaker 2Yeah, and not necessarily for the best of reasons and not necessarily for the correct reasons reason to hurt another human being ever.
Speaker 3There's no justification for that. And for those families that have lost loved ones from any form of violence, we, our hearts are with you and our prayers are with you. Our hearts also go out to the veterans though, the veterans that have been enduring this. And, um, you know, we're going into our third season. We have had on over 60 guests of veterans. We have had very few civilians on, but everybody who comes on deals with veterans somehow, and we have been trying to show the plight of what is happening in our military and with our veterans Time after time. We have bring these stories on and nothing has been done. Veterans can't get a hold of their congressmen. It's insanity what we're dealing with. But on the flip side, every time we turn around, we keep hearing politicians and civilians say how much they honor veterans, how much they love veterans, how much they respect veterans, and we don't want that to stop. So there's got to be this bridge, there's got to be an olive branch somewhere, and so maybe tonight you guys can help us with that.
Speaker 3I just I want everybody out there to know just how much you are loved and how much you are cared about. I might not know your name, but I love that you have your heart beats. I love that you have air in your lungs. I love that you've lived a life that has somehow helped my life. I know your life has somehow helped me. I know for a fact if you're a trucker, if you're a school bus driver, if you're a teacher, if you're anything, somehow you have impacted me and I thank you for that. And I want you to know that, no matter what you're dealing with, if you're civilian, politician or a veteran, that you can always reach out for help and we want you to reach out for help.
Speaker 3You do not have to stay locked in your own mind. You do not have to stay locked in your own mind. You don't have to stay in that dark area and you most certainly don't have to go through things alone. You don't have to go to the extreme. If you try to reach out to get help, keep reaching out. If one way doesn't work, you ask God and he'll give you another way. I want you guys to know that. Never give up of trying to find help. One of the ways that you can reach out is by dialing 988 and then option one. We highly recommend that Get out of your own head and get the voices, the thoughts in your head out to somebody else, because that often helps. And you can dial 988, option one, by doing that. Or you can text 838-255. Or you can also chat online. You can go to wwwveteranscrisislinenet. But those are three ways that you can connect with somebody right away and just talk.
Speaker 3Some of the other different ways we've had on multiple different charities, and these are wonderful charities. They don't take huge profits at all. Some of them actually don't take any money, but each of them has something very specific to veterans and what we deal with. So the first veteran charity they typically help veterans 65 and older. But and all of these charities, by the way, they help nationwide and at no cost to the veteran. So any of your loved ones, anybody in your family, can call any of these veterans charities and get help from across the nation. So our first one that we highlight each week is Heroes Bridge. They have a National Battle Buddy Call-In Center. That number is 1-800-653-8387. If you call that number and you're a veteran, that's 653-8387. If you call that number and you're a veteran, if you need help with anything, heroes Bridge will figure out a way to get you a contact and to help you with whatever you need help with Lawn work, a ride to a doctor appointment, anything that you need help with. They will figure out a way. They have amazing networking.
Speaker 3The next one is Warfighter Advance and they deal with post-traumatic stress. Now, please realize I did not say disorder on there, because post-traumatic stress is not a disorder and we are hearing all sorts about post-traumatic stress right now, aren't we? There is nothing wrong with post-traumatic stress. It's just something a natural reaction to stuff that we've dealt with. But if you are a veteran and if you have post-traumatic stress and if you have got to your wits end of not being able to have proper treatment for it, we ask that you, please, we beg you, to reach out to Warfighter Advance. You have to self-refer. Nobody can refer you there. It is free, like I said, nationwide. The number is 202-239-7395. Awesome program Ask for Dr Eaton 202-239-7395.
Speaker 3If you're dealing with homelessness and you're a veteran, call the Baltimore station at 410-752-2254. If you are having issues with your finances and you are a veteran, you can contact Operation First Response. That number is 888-289-0280. You can listen to all these prior shows on the WCBM app or website too, so you can hear actually, all of these people and their charities. If you're dealing with substance abuse, we recommend that you go to wwwaaorg, but you can go to an online meeting 24-7.
Speaker 3If you're dealing with substance abuse and my personal favorite I know it works is God and His Son, jesus Christ. If you are in a dark moment, if you believe you've hit rock bottom, if you just don't know where else to turn, I'm telling you, if you call out to Jesus Christ, he's going to answer. He did me and I know a whole bunch of other people he answered to and I know that now that I said it out loud to all of you and promised you that he will answer, he will. I know he will do that because he is righteous and faithful. Before we go into our clip, I want to remember all of the Jan 6th prisoners and those who have been persecuted. We want to remember Air Force Staff Sergeant Veteran Ashley Babbitt and the four other civilians that were murdered that day. No police officers were killed that day Officer Sicknick. He died of two strokes. So there was no police officers killed, as the mainstream media tries to tell you. Over 177 veterans were targeted and charged for crimes from January 6th, yet Joe Biden pardoned his son for gun crimes Within the past three weeks.
Speaker 3I recently watched a video that anybody can go out there and watch. It's on Twitter or on X and it is of three metropolitan police officers actively entrapping January 6th Actively entrapping. They are encouraging people to climb on scaffolding to go into the building. That is entrapment and by that video that is out there publicly, every single case should be thrown out and every single person should be free immediately.
Speaker 3If you want to actually see what happened on January 6th, if you were tired of being lied to, you can watch J6, a True Timeline. It is a free documentary. It is all over the Internet. You can go to Rumble, you can go anywhere J6, a True Timeline. But to all of you J6ers out there, my heart goes out to you, my prayers are with you and I praise God for your strength and your courage. We are going to go into a clip real quick. This is clip one. This is Lawrence O'Donnell, who is on MSNBC. This aired on the 2nd of January and he has a show called the Last Word and after I hear this, I most certainly hope it is his last word.
Speaker 4No one who has ever crossed the southern border in the history of the existence of the southern border has killed more people in this country than Timothy McVeigh, who was born in Lockport, new York, the northwest part of the state, into a white Roman Catholic American family with roots in this country that go back farther than Donald Trump's roots in this country. The New Orleans terrorists like Timothy McVeigh reached the rank of sergeant in the United States Army. The simple fact is, this country has suffered more deadly terrorism at the hands of American-born citizens who are veterans of the United States military than people who have crossed into this country at the southern border. It is very clear from the evidence that, if you want to worry about terrorism in this country, the United States Army is a much bigger problem than the southern border.
Speaker 3We can go ahead and stop that. I just want people to hear that wordplay that he used. So he said that veterans have killed more, or Timothy McVeigh killed more than people coming over the southern border. You see how he plays with words there. Isn't that interesting? So I'm just going to let people stew on that for a minute. We have to take a break, but I just want people, as you're stewing on that, and to Mr Lawrence O'Donnell, I want you to know that this is not the failure of veterans. This is a failure of one man and his name is Joe Biden, maybe we're not like me, maybe we don't agree.
Speaker 1Maybe that doesn't mean we gotta be enemies. Maybe we just get brave. Take a big leap of faith. Call the troops, so me and you can find a better way. Let's take some time, open our eyes, look and listen, yeah, and we're gonna find we're more alike than we are different. Why does kindness seem revolutionary? When did we let hate get so ordinary? And it allows?
Veteran Support and Community Outreach
Speaker 2it to just go. Welcome back to the Veteran Show. Thank you for listening everybody. If you're in crisis, please dial 988, press Option 1, pick up the phone text 838255. Just remember you're never alone. There's always somebody out there that wants to hear your voice.
Speaker 3That's absolutely true. They do, we do.
Speaker 2Now, if you want to get any news from the VA, please sign up for their newsletters. You can go to wwwnewsvagov or wwwveteransmarylandgov and sign up for their e-mail newsletters and get those newsletters delivered directly to your e-mail box. You can also, if you need to reach out to the VA, if you need to talk to somebody, you can call them. Reach out. Their number is 800-827-1000. They will answer your phone and actually they've gotten a lot better in the last couple of years. And then if you need to talk to us or want to get a hold of us, you can always email us at veteransshow at gmailcom.
Speaker 3There you go, you can get in contact with us and get in contact with the VA that good old 1,000 number. If you need help with your VA benefits. That is our best suggestion. Our email, as my husband said, veteransshow at gmail. We really want to make sure that we give this out tonight because there is talks of emails out there and a veteran who tried to reach out to other veterans. This is what we want you to know. It's what we said at the beginning is keep trying to reach out. If you don't succeed one way, keep trying to do it another way. But talk to somebody. Okay, and you have our email. You can reach out to us, um, and we will always, always find a way to help. If we can't help you, we will find someone who can. But there you go, you can email us as well.
Speaker 3Um, tonight, uh, you are our guest. It is the first show of this, our newest season, so you guys are the listeners. It wouldn't happen without you, and so we want to feature you tonight. And there's so much going on, we figured we really need to hear your opinions. So, if you want to call us, the WCBM call-in line is 410-922-6680. Again, that's 410-922-6680. If you want to talk about all things veteran, you don't necessarily need to be a veteran to call us. So if you just want to talk or ask our opinions, granted, we are just veterans. We're not professional radio hosts, we're not professional, really anything. We're not professional really anything. We're just people. So these are our opinions.
Speaker 3Now, also, since this is our first show of the season, last April our Motorcycle Association, we do a ride and we raise money for all these sorts of things and one of the things we have is a silent auction. We bid on a beautiful wooden flag. It's about two feet long by about two and a half, about a foot and a half wide, maybe a roundabout. But it was made by a fellow veteran in West Virginia Staff, sergeant Charles Harris. He was on the show, he was on episode 18. Sergeant Charles Harris, he was on the show, he was on episode 18. He's a double amputee who served in Afghanistan. I believe he runs a charity for taking veterans hunting. So he put us in contact with the friend that made the flag. So we are going to give this handy dandy flag out to our first caller who is a veteran. So if you are a veteran, give us a call at 410-922-6680 and give Ms Michelle all of your information. We told her what we need. We will verify you're a veteran and once we verify it, then we will send you the beautiful wooden flag that was handmade by a fellow veteran. Okay, so 410-922-6680. If you are a veteran or if you're not, but if you are, we want to give you an opening flag. So 410-922-6680.
Speaker 3We do have on the line Claude from Arbutus. Claude, thanks for calling us tonight. How are you? Happy holidays, laura. Yes, how are you doing? We're doing okay, we're doing okay, laura. Yes, how are you doing? We're doing okay, we're doing okay.
Speaker 5Thanks for the book that you sent me.
Speaker 5I appreciate it. Did you like it? Yes, ma'am, oh good. Also, you know you say about this PTSD. I don't know if you're saying it's not real, but I'm telling you that it is real. It's a problem because I volunteered in the fire department for 20 years and, seeing what I see, I'm up all night long. Sometimes it's like I hear bells going off at the station. It ain't really there. You run down to the truck, it ain't there. So you know it bothers me, and I mean it's definitely bothering veterans.
Speaker 2Well, claude, we're not saying that PTS isn't real. We're just saying it's not a disorder. It is, and if you listen to our show that we had with Dr Veeden, it's more about you have the tools and how to deal with the stress and it's more just a natural stressful reaction that your body and your system has to stressful situations.
Speaker 5I agree with you, Jeff. I agree on that. But what I'm saying is a lot of people think it ain't real. It's definitely real. No, it's absolutely real.
Speaker 3It's definitely real. No, it's absolutely real. It's absolutely real. But what we're trying to help Dr V and so many others realize is that basically, when you and I meet, or when you know Michelle and I or I meet anybody, the first like right after we meet somebody like hi, my name is so-and-so, it usually goes into and these are all my medical issues. What we're trying to break is that cycle.
Speaker 3You are not a medical problem. You are not an issue. You have medical diagnosis, but that doesn't define you Post-traumatic stress. While it is not fun and it's terrible and I wish I could eradicate it and Dr Vieten is doing an amazing job at working with people on doing that but it's not a disorder. There's nothing wrong with you. Your brain is reacting very clearly to stressful environment that most humans shouldn't be in, and I mean being in a firehouse with having a bell constantly go off. I can imagine that's going to haunt you for the rest of your life and that is post-traumatic stress. But there's not a disorder in that your body is not acting how it shouldn't be. It's doing exactly what it should be. But we're calling it a disorder and that's what I want to stop with.
Speaker 5I know what you're saying Laura, but what I'm saying is a lot of people just don't understand it. Basically they don't. These people that are making these bombs and all this, that are military people, these people are radicals. These people are not true military people, Because maybe the fourth-briar country is not going to be doing this to hurt people, our veterans. I don't believe that.
Speaker 3You know what I mean I do, and actually I'm glad you brought that up and thank you for calling us tonight, claude. I really appreciate that. And you know, like I said, you don't have a disorder, but it is. Post-traumatic stress is very real and many, almost all, veterans are dealing with it and so we have to understand that. But it's funny how media and just about everybody will use post-traumatic stress to their advantage of, you know, trying to praise veterans and we need all this and we need money to battle post-traumatic stress and da-da-da-da. But the second someone starts acting up, the second they do. Then you know, oh, they have post-traumatic stress, they're mental, they have mental problems and da-da-da-da, they can't be trusted with this. We have to take away these rights and that rights.
Speaker 3I'm tired of post-traumatic stress being weaponized, and the very first step at stopping it from being weaponized is by stopping calling it a disorder. There's nothing wrong with it, so it's just a natural human reaction. But, claude, thank you so much for your call tonight and for your sharing of your experience. That's a tough one, brother. That's a tough one, brother. That's a tough one. But I thank you for your time. I'm glad that he brought up the veterans, because we kind of have to have a conversation about that, don't?
Speaker 2we, yes, we do.
Veterans' Stories and Government Accountability
Speaker 3The glaring red elephant in the room. So these are two separate events. In my opinion there are two. They are related that there are two Army veterans. But just because we're veterans and just because we served in the same branch doesn't mean that we cross paths, Doesn't mean that we're all hanging out drinking a beer together or anything like that, Just because you're on the same base. Even Fort Bragg, it's Fort Bragg, right, Fort Bragg. How many people are on that base?
Speaker 2I don't know the exact number, but I would honestly have to say anywhere between 18,000 and 30,000 people.
Speaker 3Yeah, so you're not going to run across those people all the time. It's insanity, but they are two very separate. So you have one very high-functioning veteran active duty actually and that was Master Sergeant what is it? Matthew Littlesberger. He was the one who did the bombing in Las Vegas at Trump Tower in the Tesla truck. And then you have Staff Sergeant Shamsa Dinjabar did the bombing in Las Vegas at Trump Tower in the Tesla truck. And then you have Staff Sergeant Shamsa Dinjabar. He was the one who drove down Bourbon Street in New Orleans. Now he served in the Army about five years.
Speaker 2No, it was longer than that.
Speaker 3I thought it was only 2020.
Speaker 2No, he's actually. He joined in active duty on 2007 to 2015. And then he was from 2015 to 2020, he was in the reserves, Okay.
Speaker 3Okay, well, it's just so you have one that he was in, matthew Leibelsberger. He was in for 18 years, right? I think it was.
Speaker 2He first joined in 2006 and he was still on active duty. So, he's almost 20 years, so he's at 18 years, so one's a Green Beret and one was not.
Speaker 3They didn't know each other, that we can find out or that we know of right now, but no, because I mean. So. Here's the thing Even though they didn't know each other, that we can find out or that we know of right now.
Speaker 2But no, because I mean so. Here's the thing Even though they were both trained at Fort Bragg, leibniz Berger spent his whole career at Fort Carson, colorado, so they were in two different states the whole time.
Speaker 3Yeah, and Jabbar he was IT and human resources, so he was basically like you and me, right. And then Leibelsberger was. Even though he was in Colorado, he was probably all over the world because of his job. He was just skipping.
Speaker 2Yeah, according to the military record, he was assigned to the 10th Special Forces Group Okay, stationed at Fort Carson, colorado.
Speaker 3Okay. So they've said some things on Jabbar, that he started going through some difficult times and that people started believing that he was radicalized. But Leibelsberger, his thing is a little interesting I think people need to understand, because he should know how to have set up, first of all, an explosive like that. The explosive that he put together was I could put something together better than that and I have no training but then he put it into a bulletproof car and then he drove to a hotel that was super famous and that just seems that he had a very distinct purpose, but it wasn't necessary. Either he was an idiot and the military trained somebody and it didn't do a very good job, or he was trying to keep it as small as he possibly could.
Speaker 2And I believe personally that the second one is more likely because, I mean, just look at, they found him and Tim Kennedy did a what was it? The Special Forces competition with the History Channel 12 years ago, and they didn't just win the competition, they destroyed the competition. I mean, it wasn't even close. And then to see that, and then 12 years ago, so I mean, and that was 12 years ago, so the last 12 years he's been a highly functioning operator, yes, a special forces operator.
Speaker 3Who got promoted?
Speaker 2Yeah, no, I'm not buying that.
Speaker 3There's too many things that are off that don't quite add up with Leibelsberger, and there's a reason why, and we're going to play a clip. I probably won't get to this block, but after we come back from the break we're going to play it and it actually sheds a lot of light on what may have been going through Matthew Leibelsberger's mind or thoughts before he took his life. We assume that he took his life, which is the other thing. They keep saying that they can't get necessarily the DNA or they can't test it.
Speaker 2They can't identify the body is what they're saying, but, as you and I know, the military first thing they do is they take your DNA. So it doesn't matter if he was blown up or burned. There's DNA in the bone marrow. They can get the bone marrow. They can get the DNA.
Speaker 3It doesn't take that long, no, so so that's one of the things that doesn't add up.
Speaker 2There's quite a few things, it just doesn't add up. And there's quite a few things that just doesn't add up, and with the course of the last couple years, I just don't trust what people are saying and that's not on us.
Speaker 3I'm sorry, I do not trust anything the FBI says and I didn't do that. That was the FBI. Maybe if you hadn't botched every investigation ever given to you, we would trust you. Maybe if the government was more forthcoming with everything, we would trust you. Maybe if the government was more forthcoming with everything, we would trust you. It is not us that broke the trust. It was the United States government who broke the trust, and there are so many ways that they could rectify this, but they refuse to.
Speaker 2Oh, but they're doing it for our protection.
Speaker 3They're lying to us for our protection.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's for your protection.
Speaker 3I feel very protected.
Speaker 2You should yeah.
Speaker 3I say open the floodgates of information and let us all just decide for ourselves what is really going on. It's insane. Like I said, we have had guest after guest after guest on this show trying to all of them. We've had Captain John Frankman, who is a Green Beret. We've had everybody on this show. We've had Colonel Brad Miller, lieutenant Brescia, we've had everybody that is trying to Matthew Lohmeyer. So many people are trying to warn the public of what is going on and what these people have been through, and nobody's wanting to listen.
Speaker 2Mm-mm. Nope.
Speaker 3It's insane. So when we come back, we're going to play a clip for you that we think will be enlightening and that might show you guys that they might not be as radicalized as what you guys think. Crisis, please pick up the phone.
Speaker 2Welcome back and thank you everybody for listening to the Veteran Show. If you're in crisis, please pick up the phone Dial 988, press Option 1, or text 838255. Just remember you're never alone. Somebody always wants to hear your voice.
Speaker 3We do, we do People do. You know it's interesting. My husband and I were just sitting here talking and he's like, try not to sound so angry. He's like, try to, it just sounds like you're you're yelling at them. And then there's a lady recently she was like you don't sound at all, you don't remind, look at all what is on the radio or what I hear. She's like you sound like a drill sergeant. So listen, I understand. I am passionate is what my dear loved ones call me. And here's why Because I made a deal to sign up and start hearing stories of my fellow veterans and I thought I honestly thought that I was going to hear war stories and we were just going to sit here bonding and talking and then, lo and behold, it started turning into medical horror stories.
Speaker 3That's all I hear now is medical horror stories. And then I see that there's no solutions. Nobody wants to fix it, because if they did, it's there's a very easy fix and they would do it. But they don't. And what I see is I see money laundering on the backs of veterans and I'm frankly tired of it. And then I see stuff like this with two bombings, and this doesn't help veterans' cause at all. Now we look pretty bad and now people aren't sure if they should trust us or not.
Speaker 2It's feeding directly into their narrative.
Speaker 3It is, it really is. And so if I sound passionate, if I sound pissy, if I sound angry, it's because I damn well am, I am. I am very angry Because this has been happening for a very, very long time. And then it got to me a retired Air Force veteran who got paper cuts for a living. I didn't do anything special, I got paper cuts. And yet now I am here to try to bring attention to it, so that it got to the lowest level of little old Laura, to the lowest level of little old Laura. That angers me because there's people who have a lot more power, a lot more pull that could be solving this problem and they're not. And I want to know why. And I'm frankly over it. And so, yes, I sound angry because I am. I am, and there are times in certain shows I can sound all squishy and cozy and lovey. But give me a reason. Give me a reason. So it's not to you guys, the audience. I'm not mad at you. I love you guys, but I'm super mad at the people in charge, because none of this has to be happening. They're spending more time on H1B, whatever it is, getting them for veterans, but this is what I really want to do. I want to get this out to you guys.
Speaker 3So we have a clip. This is clip two. It's former Navy SEAL Sean Ryan. He has his own show. It's the Sean Ryan Show. It's an amazing show. He interviews Army COW2 Sam Shoemate. This is the 3rd of January and I think what happens in this show really needs to be heard. If you want to hear the entire show for yourself and it's over an hour long you can go to wwwSeanRyanShowcom. That's S-H-A-W-N-R-Y-A-N-S-H-O-W, so wwwSeananryanshowcom. The amount of information that man is getting out is awesome. Anywho, let's go ahead and play the clip.
Speaker 7This email came in on December 31st at 1042 am, that is Tuesday. He said in case I do not make it to my decision point or onto the Mexico border, I am sending this now. Please do not release this until 1 January and keep my identity private until then. First off, I'm not under duress or hostile influence or control.
Speaker 3We're just going to pause it. I want you to know who they're talking about. This man I didn't realize that it didn't say it, but this man is talking about Sergeant Matthew Allen Leibelsberger. Matthew Leibelsberger sent him an email. Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 7It was a 2006 black Ford Mustang V6 for verification what we have been seeing with drones. He puts that in quotes. He says drones is the operational use of gravitic propulsion systems powered aircraft by, most recently, china and the East Coast, but throughout history, the US. Only we in China have this capability. Our OPSEN, that's Operation Center, our OPSEN location for this activity is in the box below. China has been launching them from the Atlantic from submarines for years, but this activity recently has picked up. As of now. It is just a show of force and they are using it similar to how they use the balloon for SIGINT and ISR, which are also part of the integrated comm system. There are dozens of those balloons in the air at any given time. The so what is? Because of the speed and stealth of these unmanned aircraft. They are the most dangerous threat to national security that has ever existed. They basically have an unlimited payload capacity and can park it over the White House if they want it. It's checkmate. Us government needs to give the history of this, how we are employing it and weaponizing it, how China is employing them and what the way forward is. China is poised to attack anywhere in the East Coast.
Veterans' Struggles and Government Accountability
Speaker 7I've been followed for over a week now from likely homeland or FBI and they are looking to move on me and are unlikely going to let me cross into Mexico, but won't, because they know I am armed and I have a massive V-Bid. Let me pause right there for a second. So he says a massive V-Bid. When I was talking to the FBI yesterday, they didn't know what a V-Bid was. I had to explain what that acronym meant. Literally you f***ing, dead serious. I said it twice and he goes you said that word V-BID. Can you tell me what that is For your audience? A V-BID for your audience who has not been in the Gwad for the last 20 years? A V-BID is a vehicle-borne improvised explosive device In layman terms, a car bomb, what we saw at Trump Tower. So, backing up, he says I am armed and have a massive VBID. I've been trying to maintain a very visible profile and have kept my phone in there, definitely digitally, tracking me. Here's where he gets into the other stuff and this is where we had to redact the names. Well, your producer redacted the names.
Speaker 7I have knowledge of this program and also war crimes that were covered up during airstrikes in Nimruz province, afghanistan, in 2019 by the admin, dod, dea and CIA. I conducted targeting for these strikes. Of over 125 buildings, 65 were struck because of civcast. That's civilian casualties that killed hundreds of civilians in a single day. Us FORA continued strikes after spotting civilians on initial ISR. It was supposed to take six minutes and scramble all aircraft and CENTCOM. The UN basically called these war crimes but the administration made them disappear. I was part of that cover-up with US FORA and Agent Redacted of the DEA, so I don't know if my abduction attempt is related to either. I worked with redacted IO staff on this as well as the response to Bala Murghab, redacted commander at the time. Redacted can validate this. You need to elevate this to the media so we avoid a world war because this is a mutually assured destruction situation.
Speaker 7Then he says for vetting my LinkedIn, is Matt Berg or Matthew Livelsberger. An active duty, 18 Zulu out of 110, that's 1st Battalion, 10th Special Forces Group. My profile is public. I have an active TSSCI with UAP, usap access. What is USAP? Do you know what that is? I don't know what that is. So I checked his credentials on LinkedIn. So that was the first thing I did. I went to his LinkedIn page. First thing I noticed was all of his bona fides were in place. He has all the UAS training from use of SOC and everything else, and so I said, okay, at least the guy knows what he's talking about with drones. That was a very rough dig into the guy. But my issue was I couldn't validate or verify any of this information, and I told him that, and how I responded to him was in a subsequent email. I said this is obviously a very big deal, but I don't have anything to verify this information with. Talking about gravidic propulsion systems without evidence just makes me another UFO talking head.
Speaker 3So we'll go ahead and just end that, but you guys can look it up for yourselves. I really think you guys should watch that entire show. Like I said, wwwseanryanshowcom. I believe that's the most recent show of his, so what is?
Speaker 2It brings up some questions.
Speaker 3It does so what is it brings up some questions. It does so, jeff, what is it exactly that um they're talking about in this email and that um, what's uh, libel's burger did in the army? What is he talking about? Do you want, can you explain it? Do you bring attention to an operation that happened in 2019 that was covered up because it killed a whole bunch of civilians somewhere, I can't remember where? I'm sorry, very sorry for that, but um terrible memory, but anywho, it was afghanistan.
Speaker 2It was a, it was a drug operation or but. And sean ryan, they go into it a little bit more in in the in the show because sean lays out the UN actual investigation and so that portion of it sticks out real, the whole drone. I personally I just think that he was trying to get out information that he personally has been involved in and that he knows that some type of cover-up is going on over it and with a lot of us military members that spent. I mean, why did we go to Afghanistan? Because of 9-11. But why did we stay there for 20 years and why is it there? I mean, why is Iraq? Why did we go to Iraq? I mean, why did I spend my time there? It's just, it's these kind of things I think he's trying to bring light to that.
Speaker 3Well, I agree, I think he's trying to bring light to it too. But what I think is absolutely crazy is that all these journalists are running around going why did they do what they did? It's not that hard. Veterans are dealing with all sorts of horrible, horrible stuff. So Littlesburger was sent to war over and over and over again, and as many veterans that we find out later on. Most of the stuff that we were sent to, most of the stuff that we were asked to do, wasn't quite what we thought it was. We weren't told the whole story and now we're starting to find out the whole story. And now we're starting to find out how we've been played. And now there's a lot of demons in many people's closet or not closet, a lot of minds, the post-traumatic stress that we're having to deal with and the stuff that we've done.
Speaker 3Leibelsberger sounds like he was part of an operation, of that. He sounds like he's very well trained, knew what he was doing and he was trying to bring attention to that. He tried to contact the Sean Ryan show. He tried to contact a lot of people and nobody was listening. Why? Because people reach out of the woodwork for everything, so people get blown off and that's what happened with this guy. He tried to reach out, nobody listened. But and that's what happened with this guy he tried to reach out, nobody listened. But he's not off. He's right about the drones. You can look at Colonel Mills, who we had on the show that talked about the threats of China.
Speaker 3What I guess I'm trying to get at is that these veterans are not radicalized. Do not call them radicals. They are dealing with all of the stuff that veterans do not in the best way, but there are reasons that they're doing it. Livelsberger is trying to get information out to you about a faulty killing of civilians that happened in 2019 that, it seems, the US government has tried to cover up. So I suggest we take a look-see at that. Now for the other, sam Suddin-Jabbar, the New Orleans bomber.
Speaker 3That veteran For me, what I see is a veteran who got out, who dealt with a lot of issues that veterans deal with are transitioning to civilian life. He tried to make it work. He tried to get a job in real estate, he tried to do training, but things in his life just didn't come together. So do you know what he did? He did what a lot of us do he went searching for peace, for purpose, and he went, unfortunately, to somewhere that might have radicalized him and tried to give him a new purpose, and so he went with that. He was searching for brotherhood and what I'm telling you, my veterans out there, you do not need to search anymore. There are people out there. There's us, jeff and I, that we love you.
Speaker 3If you need to reach out, if you need to talk, you email us, you contact any of the charities that we've had on the show. Like I said, you can go to WCBM, look up their shows. If you go to our show, you can go to all of our prior shows. You can hear all of them and you can actually hear these charities for themselves. You can hear some of these veterans for themselves.
Speaker 3If you need to reach out, if you know of an operation or if you know of anything that something is weighing on your heart as a veteran, if you were asked to do something, you have to reach out to another veteran and get that off your chest. You have DAV, you have VFWs, you have legions, you have there's so many veterans, charities that are out there running who want to help you, and that's what we're really trying to get across is these two veterans. We need to step back and, before we start calling names, realize that these were lives and they were trying to say something with their life, whether it be the right thing or the wrong thing. They might have gone about it not the best way, but what was the message in their actions? Right, Yep.
Speaker 3So I hope we don't forget that, because there are so many veterans right now that are just really disenfranchised. Right, you have the Vietnam veterans who they're still dealing with Agent Orange. You have all the Iraq, all the Afghanistan, all of the Uzbekistan, all of these veterans who are realizing why were we there for 20 years and we're finding out oil? We were there for oil, we were there for rare earths, we were there for this overthrow, this coup, this do-do-do. We're realizing how played we were.
Speaker 2What did Dwight D Eisenhower say after World War II?
Speaker 3Watch out for the military-industrial complex, and that's what we have right now, and I think we need to stop giving evil the benefit of the doubt People. Our government has the capabilities to do way amazing things, way amazing things, and we need to stop thinking that we only see technology on the big screen. Our government knows how to do stuff. Those drones wouldn't be up in the sky if they didn't want them there, if they didn't approve of them being there. If it's China, if it's whoever the US government is authorizing them to be there, the US government is authorizing to keep paying the VA billions or millions of dollars and not letting the money get to the veterans, veterans who need help with PTS. The US government is failing in every single way possible.
Speaker 3And these two veterans, these two tragic stories, and then the way that their decisions have touched 14 others and then injured so many, place the blame where it belongs. It is on Joe Biden, our incompetent commander in chief. It is his fault. He should have been overseeing this. It is not these veterans. They are not radicalized, it's squarely Joe Biden. Thank you for listening. Thanks for letting us rant. Stay safe out there. We love you. Reach out for help. We'll talk to you next week, will we see an end?
Speaker 1To all this pain. It's not enough to do nothing. It's time for us to do something. It's time for us to do something.
